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This poor property was victim to a bunch of shady ass vendors. Basement door that was boarded they drilled holes in the top 2x4, put in the bolts and took pics then took the bolts out of the top and put them in the bottom 2x4. Then screwed the top board on.

Boarded front door by screwing into siding. This was an MCS property by the way. Then when I got it, on my W/O the last guy who was here on 4/13 this year said he didn't need to winterize it or secure as it was already secure. Not. Unless this all happened in 9 days and I really don't think it did.
 

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All pipes ripped out. Every entrance was destroyed. The hole to the knob lock was so destroyed I couldn't even get a new knob on it. Ended up putting the lock box on the only handle left which was on the exterior siding glass door, the non-broken side. Was hoping to remove some debris, get a few things locked up but they just said change the 2 locks and bid everything else now.

First pic is the front door. Screwed into the siding.
 

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Is all of the copper missing? How much do you need to replace?
All of it is missing, not a single piece left anywhere. The lettering is working great, had someone call me to tell me a brake light was out :thumbup:
 

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No offense Zoly but you are so "green" I am finding a lot of your questions downright annoying.
Your playing "contractor", do your damn homework and learn the business.
Seriously....asking for plumbing estimates???? People like you straight pi$$ me off.

I'm out.
Why would I be offended by you being annoyed or pissed off?
 

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If all of it is missing, bid extremely high on the job and hope you get the bid. What you are describing will take weeks to complete correctly. So, I would bid $4.00 a linear foot, and estimate high on the material, so say 5,000 linear feet (probably too much, but I'm not a plumber). Then I would add 25% for your vendor discount. So, I would bid $25,000. And that's just to replace the copper. You bid replacing drywall after the copper is in, and all the fixtures separately. Once again, my estimate may be high, but it's a starting point. Another suggestion is ask a plumber to give you an estimate.

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If all of it is missing, bid extremely high on the job and hope you get the bid. What you are describing will take weeks to complete correctly. So, I would bid $4.00 a linear foot, and estimate high on the material, so say 5,000 linear feet (probably too much, but I'm not a plumber). Then I would add 25% for your vendor discount. So, I would bid $25,000. And that's just to replace the copper. You bid replacing drywall after the copper is in, and all the fixtures separately. Once again, my estimate may be high, but it's a starting point. Another suggestion is ask a plumber to give you an estimate.

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Thanks, I've never done anything this large. Have done a few small pipes when they burst and that's it. Tried to call a plumber earlier today but they wanted an estimate fee that I don't think is going to happen. Property is in the mountains 3.5 hrs from any major city.

I think I'd be willing to give them a deeper discount if they fronted material cost. Just did a huge drywall replacement on a house and replacing all doors / stairs / etc. Cost us a ton of money and we still haven't seen the check for that yet but it's only been 23 days.
 

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im always willing to help the green guys to bid plumbing hmm well we need boiler condition has this house ever frozen we need to bid copper and pex type this house looks real new so the prints should be on file to get an idea of whats needed and how many linear foot of pipe is or was here also assume a well at this location so was it shallow or deep theres alot here you could make a ton of money but its WAY OUT so if you forgot something your losing a half day back and forth and the old dogs would agree to that but as you say your new in this can you hold the bag on it for 60 days or more and never deep discount ever
 

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We have been running into a lot of former MCS homes also. Have been finding Wints that have full hot water heaters locks not working and toilets packed to the top. But the had the taped shut with a wint sticker on it. Along with lines full of water.
 

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You can bid as you want BUT I wouldn't touch it if you're not a licensed plumber. The last thing you need is to try to do the job and not be able to get permits. If you are not a licensed plumber then you can't pull the permits. AT least in NJ but sure it is the same most places.
 

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I worked doing lawn cuts for that old d-bag. He was a sexual predator too. Had a female friend working for him and he would make her cry daily, all his employee's hated him. Surprised he's still in business.

The letter on this house said MCS Bank of America, called the number and it said this Safeguard number is no longer in service. It's in Worcester, NY. Is that close to you 68W?
 

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The letter on this house said MCS Bank of America, called the number and it said this Safeguard number is no longer in service.
It is easy to spot the MCS/BOA/Safeguard houses in my area. Lawns not cut, debris piled in them, broken windows not boarded, A/C units gone, etc.

At one of my regular service properties I had a neighbor want to know if I was going to cut the yard next to him. He was pretty upset about the property condition.

I looked a the signs in the window and told him it was a Safeguard house and he would be lucky if it was ever cut, much less cut correctly.
 
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