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Skyview

Discussion Starter · Apr 16, 2012

How's it going guys. My name is Adam and I'm a recovering contractor currently stuck in the wonderful REO world!!

Actually it's not all bad as we are (currently) one of the largest contractors in the country for a national. (Not bragging, just means I know what I'm talking about!)

I prefer to work for brokers however we grew to 2-300 intial services per month a few years ago when we could turn a serious profit and this made tracking jobs for brokers much more difficult.

Yes, I pull my hair out and bitch and shout but, I still make money even with all of these new requirements (newest one might make me quit though)

Maybe we can get some of the old CT posters who have departed to TRY this forum and hopefully get back to some decent conversing!

I don't post much on forums but this one is depressing so I'm off to start new threads in forums that haven't been touched yet!

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HARRY304E

· #2 · Apr 16, 2012

Skyview said:
How's it going guys. My name is Adam and I'm a recovering contractor currently stuck in the wonderful REO world!!

Actually it's not all bad as we are (currently) one of the largest contractors in the country for a national. (Not bragging, just means I know what I'm talking about!)

I prefer to work for brokers however we grew to 2-300 intial services per month a few years ago when we could turn a serious profit and this made tracking jobs for brokers much more difficult.

Yes, I pull my hair out and bitch and shout but, I still make money even with all of these new requirements (newest one might make me quit though)

Maybe we can get some of the old CT posters who have departed to TRY this forum and hopefully get back to some decent conversing!

I don't post much on forums but this one is depressing so I'm off to start new threads in forums that haven't been touched yet!

What is the newest requirement That might make you quit..?

PropPresPro

· #3 · Apr 16, 2012

Skyview said:
? . .Maybe we can get some of the old CT posters who have departed to TRY this forum and hopefully get back to some decent conversing!

I don't post much on forums but this one is depressing so I'm off to start new threads in forums that haven't been touched yet!

I think in time you might see some of them start to participate here.
One of the biggest challenges over at CT, for both CT and the P&P professionals, was the moderation by those who have 0% P&P experience. Nathan has mentioned that he would like to have P&P expirenced mods here, and I think that will really help make this forum more "professional friendly". IMHO

Skyview

Discussion Starter · #4 · Apr 16, 2012

HARRY304E said:
What is the newest requirement That might make you quit..?

Pulling all nails, hooks ect. from the EXTERIOR including fascia of ALL properties including those that this was not a requirement on prior, or face a potential $30 charge back.

I told them I wont have my refresh and qc guys do this on 500+ existing properties for free and I'm not going to pay them more since this is a new expectaition on old jobs. Back charge me enough and I will have to scale back my services for this client ultimately to zero as the profit margins have become so small as is.

Might sound trivial, but a dollar is a dollar and they are getting harder to come by.

PropPresPro

· #5 · Apr 16, 2012

Skyview said:
Pulling all nails, hooks ect. from the EXTERIOR including fascia of ALL properties including those that this was not a requirement on prior, or face a potential $30 charge back.

I told them I wont have my refresh and qc guys do this on 500+ existing properties for free and I'm not going to pay them more since this is a new expectaition on old jobs. Back charge me enough and I will have to scale back my services for this client ultimately to zero as the profit margins have become so small as is.

Who is the client coming up with this gem?

HARRY304E

· #6 · Apr 16, 2012

Skyview said:
Pulling all nails, hooks ect. from the EXTERIOR including fascia of ALL properties including those that this was not a requirement on prior, or face a potential $30 charge back.

I told them I wont have my refresh and qc guys do this on 500+ existing properties for free and I'm not going to pay them more since this is a new expectaition on old jobs. Back charge me enough and I will have to scale back my services for this client ultimately to zero as the profit margins have become so small as is.

$30 charge back.

Why so low any task should be worth $400- 500 by the time you are done at least half the day is gone and you must cover the whole day.

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Skyview

Discussion Starter · #7 · Apr 16, 2012

ProPresPro said:
I think in time you might see some of them start to participate here.
One of the biggest challenges over at CT, for both CT and the P&P professionals, was the moderation by those who have 0% P&P experience. Nathan has mentioned that he would like to have P&P expirenced mods here, and I think that will really help make this forum more "professional friendly". IMHO

I agree with this, I lurked alot on CT as I'm just not much of a poster and after that debacle it really appeared to slow down. Clean slate is what I'm hoping this board is, just needs more activity.

Skyview

Discussion Starter · #8 · Apr 16, 2012

ProPresPro said:
Who is the client coming up with this gem?

Safeguard,, I understand this is their client requirement however it should be on a going forward basis, not on properties that have been completed.

BPWY

· #9 · Apr 16, 2012

No surprise on SG there.

I do a few REOs a year for them. Haven't seen that requirement yet.

A new forum takes time to get started. Folks are testing the waters and in general trying to get a feel for the place. I've been around forums a long time and have seen this often. Even if you open a new subforum within an existing forum things can take a few weeks to get rolling.
Example on a forum I've been on since 06 the politics section was pretty heated. For a long time the long time members had been asking for that section to have less moderation. Finally the site owner gave them that. Pass word protected it and opened it to very little moderation. The place died for almost 3 weeks. Then every one got used to the new way and it was political fights on.
Some times forums take a mind of their own. Its kind of funny to watch them over the years as I have on different forums. I've been a forum almost junkie since around 1998.

GTX63

· #10 · Apr 16, 2012

Havent seen that requirement from Safguard yet but there are plenty of reasons why we do not accept orders for trashouts from them anymore.
I find it amusing that everytime there are new photo/work order requirements, they tell us "The client has new guidlines and these must be followed." Oh, and they pay rate is the same. Well, we do work for some of their "clients" and have yet to receive the memo from them.

JDRM

· #11 · Apr 16, 2012

Safegaurd and back charge go hand and hand!

HARRY304E

· #12 · Apr 17, 2012

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BPWY said:
No surprise on SG there.

I do a few REOs a year for them. Haven't seen that requirement yet.

A new forum takes time to get started. Folks are testing the waters and in general trying to get a feel for the place. I've been around forums a long time and have seen this often. Even if you open a new subforum within an existing forum things can take a few weeks to get rolling.
Example on a forum I've been on since 06 the politics section was pretty heated. For a long time the long time members had been asking for that section to have less moderation. Finally the site owner gave them that. Pass word protected it and opened it to very little moderation. The place died for almost 3 weeks. Then every one got used to the new way and it was political fights on.
Some times forums take a mind of their own. Its kind of funny to watch them over the years as I have on different forums. I've been a forum almost junkie since around 1998.

I've been a forum junkie since around 1998.

No way......

BTW good post...

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TNTSERVICES

· #13 · May 14, 2012

I am here, so it should still be very interesting. I am wondering if my views will get me banned or if you guys are as open to good conversation as you say you are.

PropPresPro

· #14 · May 15, 2012

TNTSERVICES said:
I am here, so it should still be very interesting. I am wondering if my views will get me banned or if you guys are as open to good conversation as you say you are.

TNT, you're as welcome here as you are anywhere!

The key is, as you say, "good conversation". If you have something to contribute, be it by experience or whatever, by all means - contribute! I have no doubt that I and every other member here can learn something from your life/work experience.

As far as I am concerned, your views will never get you banned from this forum regardless of if I agree with them or not, as long as they are always presented in a respectful, non-argumentative manner.

TNTSERVICES

· #15 · May 15, 2012

PropPresPro said:
TNT, you're as welcome here as you are anywhere!

The key is, as you say, "good conversation". If you have something to contribute, be it by experience or whatever, by all means - contribute! I have no doubt that I and every other member here can learn something from your life/work experience.

As far as I am concerned, your views will never get you banned from this forum regardless of if I agree with them or not, as long as they are always presented in a respectful, non-argumentative manner.

There's the kicker...I guess that would be left for you to decide...

PropPresPro

· #16 · May 15, 2012 (Edited)

TNTSERVICES said:
There's the kicker...I guess that would be left for you to decide...

Yep!
But there is that whole set of rules thing that I have to comply with as well.

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