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INFORMATION GATHERING..............
Have any of you received a direct request to have applications downloaded to your cell phones for tracking purposes???
"To insure you're at the right property at the right date and time".....
 

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Fas made it mandatory for CA a few years ago to recieve more work, I just started using the new AMS app, and its not too bad. Cuts my job in half:) But you can turn your location on or off.
 

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Tell em you don't have a dumb axx phone. No apps.
 
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the app is great no sorting and as Blondie said it is just a review of the jobs pix and an invoice uplosaded and you are DONE. Used to take 2 hours to size label and E mail photos back in the day. Most of you all don't have a clue, not diss'n yall but technology in this realm has made this industry nice !
 

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The NPPG elected elected their Board of directors today and has issued a position papers on this subject....:innocent::innocent:
They will also be addressing members of congress and the US Senate with the papers....:whistling2::whistling2:
In addition I have posted on the daily update thread their first official press release.....:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
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the app is great no sorting and as Blondie said it is just a review of the jobs pix and an invoice uplosaded and you are DONE. Used to take 2 hours to size label and E mail photos back in the day. Most of you all don't have a clue, not diss'n yall but technology in this realm has made this industry nice !
Prove to me that this app is not collecting copies of my emails, text messages, my phone book or any other personal information and then maybe I will give it a few seconds consideration.

It is none of there business when I leave my house, when and where I take lunch or anything else I do or when I do it for that matter.

I am not an employee.
 

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the app is great no sorting and as Blondie said it is just a review of the jobs pix and an invoice uplosaded and you are DONE. Used to take 2 hours to size label and E mail photos back in the day. Most of you all don't have a clue, not diss'n yall but technology in this realm has made this industry nice !
And when they pull the timestamps from the photos and find you only spent 15 minutes mowing, down go the rates some more..........
 

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If it's anything like the Pruvian system FAS has I'm all in. The difference between SG's canned answers to any situation uploader that takes longer than the job to upload... or taking the before and after pics in each catigory in the field and uploading them with the push of a button, then marking it complete and invoicing when you get home in 5 mins...I don't mind that they can verify i'm on the correct site. If they find I'm only there for 10 mins and am charging them $50.00 then that's how I make my $...Cut my $ and I'll find something else to do.
 

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When you have time signature on your photos you have effectively punched a time clock.
If I want to punch a time clock I will give up the business license, drop all my insurance policies, sell all my $20k worth of equipment and go submit 20 job applications a week until someone gives me a time card to punch...
Which actually may not be a bad idea since I would have to be paid at least minimum wage....
 

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When you have time signature on your photos you have effectively punched a time clock.
If I want to punch a time clock I will give up the business license, drop all my insurance policies, sell all my $20k worth of equipment and go submit 20 job applications a week until someone gives me a time card to punch...
Which actually may not be a bad idea since I would have to be paid at least minimum wage....
I agree. But I'm also always finding ways to be more efficient.
 

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And when they pull the timestamps from the photos and find you only spent 15 minutes mowing, down go the rates some more..........

NO

NEVER

have not had a "yard took too short" of time denial. This is where you have to be smarter than the national and we ALL know thats not too hard !!

I use this process:

1) arrive take before photos
2) do work completely edged blown etc
3) take photo of mower WITH BAG ATTACHED
4) take afters and you are done

this will take more than 15 minutes as long as their requirements are met tehn who cares how long it takes ??
 

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I really don't see the big deal with any of this. If you take a photo with a digital camera and its a jpeg file it already has a time stamp on it with date and time. I learn this from a wqc preson at sg, they a file on their system that double check all photos to make sure you not using photos twice. If you get caught you get a couple slaps on the butt.

That same q c person told me they will not tell you that they caught you and sometimes they save that little dirty secret and throw a chargeback at you and it makes you look bad becausyou are oon the cheater list
 

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haven't heard about the phone app yet. but all my employess have is "dumb phones". they provide their own phones. I just require they have a phone. Not what type.

This seems like an invasion of privacy to me, or a request an employer would make of an employee. When I do things is up to me. I got no problem with deadlines, how I meet that deadline is up to me.

I'm not going to provide all my employees with smart phones, nor am I going to tell them they have to have one. I just need communication with the crew. I find they treat their belongings alot better than they treat my stuff (tools, vehicles and equipment). I'm not going to provide them with $200 phones to be lost or run over with the lawnmower. I'd be firing employees every other week.
 
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I purposely left my camera phone off by year and month.


So if its Jan 2012 the camera probably said some thing like July of 09.


The time in between photos can't be helped unless you manually F with the time.
 

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So when I run all the pictures through Pixresizer and have the EXIF data removed, the original file time stamp is still left behind? I thought it removed everthing.
 
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