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This is not a question just me venting***

In an email I recieve from a national this morning I am being hounded for a late initial lawn service that they knew has been and will be late due to weather and this is still basically unnaceptable but we all know this is how things work with these greaseballs.
I just find it so damn funny that when I called them an hour after recieving that email to talk to the accounting department to find out why I did not recieve my normal Wednesday check they said they were 'sorry' but because of the holiday things have gotten backed up and she wasn't sure when the check would go out....:censored:
I think after Christmas when I start to get emails and phone calls I will say 'sorry' due to the fact that it was Christmas I stuffed my face and now can't seem to make it off the couch, not sure when I'll get the job done...;)
 

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This is not a question just me venting***

In an email I recieve from a national this morning I am being hounded for a late initial lawn service that they knew has been and will be late due to weather and this is still basically unnaceptable but we all know this is how things work with these greaseballs.
I just find it so damn funny that when I called them an hour after recieving that email to talk to the accounting department to find out why I did not recieve my normal Wednesday check they said they were 'sorry' but because of the holiday things have gotten backed up and she wasn't sure when the check would go out....:censored:
I think after Christmas when I start to get emails and phone calls I will say 'sorry' due to the fact that it was Christmas I stuffed my face and now can't seem to make it off the couch, not sure when I'll get the job done...;)
Ahem, you eeeeediot(just joking). This isn't a do as I say not as i do industry!! Lol.

That response won't go over too well. That was really creative though. They want results driven contractors.
 
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And we exactly that, we stay on time have next to no call backs or they are resolved as an issue outside of our hands.
I know I am beating a dead horse and all of my initial post was a waste of breath because this is how things are and I know things are not changing (for the better anyways) any time soon.
I had my people working over the holiday weekend, these knuckleheads don't start cutting checks till Monday, so why the damn delay?? Or atleast an email or phone call to say hey we are running behind on getting checks out this week but we will let you know when we get one out for you...common freakin courtesy
 
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Hello. I have several work orders from a company, and I dont feel that I am making money but break even. They gave me their price list but it wuoldnt make me any money at all. How do I make money? I dont want to scare them away since I am new at this but I dont want to work for free if you know what I mean.they havent pay me yet because its 45 day net. i did one work order for 60 dollars initial cleaning and rekey. it took me and my partner 5 hours to clean the house, and we didnt make any money. I charged them 35 cents per mile, should I increase? What about labor? How do you charge for your labor? Any help would be appreciated.:thumbup:
 
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Wait....$60 for initial cleaning and rekey??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
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Wait....$60 for initial cleaning and rekey??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
yes... and?
 
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If you are not making money or breaking even then there is no reason to worry about scaring them away because you need to scare them away, far far away. You have to find out what it costs for you to run the business and complete the jobs you take on. What might sound like a good price on paper or over the phone can turn into a very ugly little number when you arrive at a property and see what your up against. If you can't make money don't do the job.
I will absolutely take one for the team, ONE not every one, if need be from a client who has kept us busy. What I mean by that is I might go out of my way to do a piddly job that I can't make a dime on if that client has sent good paying work consistently in the past, but not for a new one.
 
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If you are not making money or breaking even then there is no reason to worry about scaring them away because you need to scare them away, far far away. You have to find out what it costs for you to run the business and complete the jobs you take on. What might sound like a good price on paper or over the phone can turn into a very ugly little number when you arrive at a property and see what your up against. If you can't make money don't do the job.
I will absolutely take one for the team, ONE not every one, if need be from a client who has kept us busy. What I mean by that is I might go out of my way to do a piddly job that I can't make a dime on if that client has sent good paying work consistently in the past, but not for a new one.
Like I said, I am new at this business. Do you bid hourly, flat rate? Do you include hotel/meal expenses? What do you usuallly bid? This will gives me a good idea what I should bid on.
 
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Where are you going to for jobs that you need hotels and meals expenses?Most jobs are flat rates say yes or say no.When you have a bid job,you bid on the job that you feel you can do a good job and make money.

Would you rather loose money and work?Or work less and make money?
 
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I have got to subscribe to this thread! I also would like to profit from the upcoming advice.
 
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I am also a newbie on this thread but have read the veterans post and learned alot.Not to be rude but guys doing a re key and cleaning for 60 dollars its not helping this forum make any money.If 9 out of 10 of us say no and one person says yes,they in turn think that it can be done for that price.

I have done jobs and lost my shirt,but thats part of business,But I will no longer do jobs that have such low bottom flat fees
 
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I am also a newbie on this thread but have read the veterans post and learned alot.Not to be rude but guys doing a re key and cleaning for 60 dollars its not helping this forum make any money.If 9 out of 10 of us say no and one person says yes,they in turn think that it can be done for that price.

I have done jobs and lost my shirt,but thats part of business,But I will no longer do jobs that have such low bottom flat fees
I didnt know until after fact. That was my first work order, I thought that was for work order not including labor, expenses, etc. I feel used, and now I know better. Thats why I am asking what you would normally charge, and so forth. If you have your own price list, do I need to create one for myself? Or just bid when I am at the site and see if I can do the job, because 60 dollars is full of crap.
 
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I am not sure an online forum is the best resource to determine your price model
 
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I am not sure an online forum is the best resource to determine your price model
Its a place where he is trying to get some info about pricing,flat fees,bid,and all around common questions.

Nobody will tell him how to bid,you just have to look at each companys price matrix
 
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I didnt know until after fact. That was my first work order, I thought that was for work order not including labor, expenses, etc. I feel used, and now I know better. Thats why I am asking what you would normally charge, and so forth. If you have your own price list, do I need to create one for myself? Or just bid when I am at the site and see if I can do the job, because 60 dollars is full of crap.
I'm all about helping people and I understand that everyone is a nebie at some point, but COME ON!

Is this a business for you, or did you answer some craigslist ad?

Do you have insurance, capital, equipment, business plan????
 
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I'm all about helping people and I understand that everyone is a nebie at some point, but COME ON!

Is this a business for you, or did you answer some craigslist ad?

Do you have insurance, capital, equipment, business plan????
Yes I do have all that. I just dont want to bid too low which I should've bid higher. I have a soft heart and I like to help people but I need to make sure I am not being screw over. They didnt tell me I could bid at the site when they first handed me the work order. Now, I know. I am just asking to see what is average you would bid on initial sales clean, trash out, etc. This preservation property business is new for me.
 
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Its a place where he is trying to get some info about pricing,flat fees,bid,and all around common questions.

Nobody will tell him how to bid,you just have to look at each companys price matrix
Thank you. I have been researching the prices to cover my business overhead, my expenses and labors. I am building my price list as I go.
 
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Yes I do have all that. I just dont want to bid too low which I should've bid higher. I have a soft heart and I like to help people but I need to make sure I am not being screw over. They didnt tell me I could bid at the site when they first handed me the work order. Now, I know. I am just asking to see what is average you would bid on initial sales clean, trash out, etc. This preservation property business is new for me.
So what kind of training do you have in the PP field? Did you work for a company before starting your own business?
 
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Yes I do have all that. I just dont want to bid too low which I should've bid higher. I have a soft heart and I like to help people but I need to make sure I am not being screw over. They didnt tell me I could bid at the site when they first handed me the work order. Now, I know. I am just asking to see what is average you would bid on initial sales clean, trash out, etc. This preservation property business is new for me.
google MCS, safeguard,Fas fill out some forms you will see there matrix.They pretty much have lowest prices and you can go from there
 
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So what kind of training do you have in the PP field? Did you work for a company before starting your own business?
I am currently working with a company. I just mentioned earlier I just got the first work order that was for 60 dollars which I thought was not included the labor, expenses, etc. I am now building my price list which is reasonable because I know there are people would charge ridiciously high. I have been in construction world for the last 10 years.
 
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