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Has anybody here ever actually boarded a pool?I always get tarp approvals.

If so does anybody have a price roughly on s/ft??

I am pretty sure they will tarp the pool instead of board I just want to speed up the quote.

16 wide
30 long
1 diving board
2 ladders

Thank you all if you can help
 
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We go $3.05/sf. remember to figure the overage on the extra board sitting on pool concrete.
 

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FHA Allowable is up to $1050 less any % if National is involved. They used to base this on $2.05 sq'
 
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The pool is 16 ft wide by 36 long I prefer the 3 s.ft over the 2 s/ft.

Like I said I have tarped pools but not boarded ever
 
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I wouldn't do for the 2.05sf (gross pay FHA allowable) breakeven at best prices..... I always used the $3.05 which netted the $2.05sf after discounts/insurance costs. I only work for PAY :)
 

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IMHO Pool boarding is stupid when there are EXTREMELY nice covers out there. Why "presidential engineer" a wood cover and deter from the homes value when you can install one of these that actually adds to the homes value............

 
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MKM Landscaping said:
The pool is 16 ft wide by 36 long I prefer the 3 s.ft over the 2 s/ft.

Like I said I have tarped pools but not boarded ever
The reason for the hard cover or HUD specs requirement is to prevent someone or thing potentially falling into the pool and drowning or suffucating if trapped inside the tarp or plastic that is used to cover it.

For liability reasons you should be informing and bidding to hard cover or cover to HUD specs, the pool so if they refuse you have documentation that you informed them of the potential danger and corrective action to CYA.

Fremont pricing is on. They ain't going to like it, but hell, if you aren't losing money on the project they never do....
 
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IMHO Pool boarding is stupid when there are EXTREMELY nice covers out there. Why "presidential engineer" a wood cover and deter from the homes value when you can install one of these that actually adds to the homes value............
That's a nice cover for sure, but the pools around here are usually junk. I think it keeps buyers from seeing in it.
 
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By the time you purchase materials,pay for labor endless photos and net 60 day pay turn around I am like fremont if i can't make money on the job I will not do it
 

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That's a nice cover for sure, but the pools around here are usually junk. I think it keeps buyers from seeing in it.
In the nearly 5 years of doing this i have seen exactly 1 pool out here......................
 
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We have boarded tons of pools here....inground, above ground...even frame covers for hottubs.


Hate doing them...to much trouble for little profit...
 

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Just as a word of caution. If you board up the pool and it has a raised coping, cut some 2x4's to create feet under it, or the weight of the frame could crack some of the coping.
 

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One benefit to living in a "cold" climate.................. 0.0001% of jobs have pools.


Way way back in the day of 35mm film and overnight mail I ran into a pool in a pool house.
Since 09 I've ran into exactly 1 job with a pool. FILTHY BLACK water from all the dead animals, tumble weeds and God knows what in it. Damn bank wouldn't do a damn thing with it.
Wouldn't pump it, wouldn't board it, nothing.
 

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Boarding a pool, IMHO, is a waste of time and money. Almost feels like government work. Saw one above ground pool once that had been boarded, couldn't handle the weight and collapsed. I have a guy who runs his own pool business, and installs the nice pool covers on the inground units. When we get the "your bid is above the industry standard and fair pricing guidelines" memo, we let them know we are using professionals who set the standard, and decline their "bid adjustments".
 

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The claims of industry standard really grate on me.

Who do they think they are claiming to know what the industry standard is in my town.
Just like gas and groceries is going to cost far more in a remote mountain town, so is every thing else.

Now I'm not in a remote area but I am not far from remote areas, and occasionally have to work there.

Once I had one clueless mouth breather tell me that there was no reason under the sun that a contractor needed to be paid drive time and expenses.
"My boss does not pay me to drive to work, I am not paying your bid that includes drive time". Direct quote.

I just hung up the phone. If you are that stupid there is no hope for you today, tomorrow doesn't look good either.
 

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LOL, there was a follow up call from Safeguard once on a bid. They told us that the "Industry Standard" didn't relate to the roofing industry, but rather to the preservation industry. I had to ask the guy, "Does Safeguard pay you based on the industry standard for office help or do they pay you based on what you are worth?" That was maybe 6 months ago so he is probably long gone.
 

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LOL, there was a follow up call from Safeguard once on a bid. They told us that the "Industry Standard" didn't relate to the roofing industry, but rather to the preservation industry. I had to ask the guy, "Does Safeguard pay you based on the industry standard for office help or do they pay you based on what you are worth?" That was maybe 6 months ago so he is probably long gone.
My response usually is, I understand what you think is the industry standard. My standards are higher. I have my own business model to follow and I need to make a profit on all that we do, if not I won't accept the job. There's some room to negotiate on some work orders, on this work order there is no room to negotiate. What additional work would you like to send us with no discount to make up for this?
 
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My response usually is, I understand what you think is the industry standard. My standards are higher. I have my own business model to follow and I need to make a profit on all that we do, if not I won't accept the job. There's some room to negotiate on some work orders, on this work order there is no room to negotiate. What additional work would you like to send us with no discount to make up for this?
I do get a kick out of how on more than a few occassions I've heard the plee for " If you do this for me now I'll make it up to you on a future job." lolololol

Suuurrrrrreeeeeeee, just like the checks in the mail....:laughing:
 

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I do get a kick out of how on more than a few occassions I've heard the plee for " If you do this for me now I'll make it up to you on a future job." lolololol

Suuurrrrrreeeeeeee, just like the checks in the mail....:laughing:
I usually have them send it to me first before I commit.
 
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