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I'm a licensed contractor and I was wondering if anyone knew if Property Management companies are required to hire Licensed Contractors. I haven't found anything that states they have to use licensed people, but it seems to me if there doing licensed maintenance work, they'd have to use Licensed Contractors. If anyone could give me some info I'd apppriciate it.

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In my neck of the woods, maintenance is allowed to be done in-house. Changing lamps, ballasts, etc. up to a certain voltage & amperage do not require a license.

Above that threshold, hey either must be licensed or hire someone who is.
 
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I work for several property managment companies. In Georgia only some trades are Licensed. Electrical, Plumbing, Hvac. A GC has to be licensed but only if they are doing work involving a licensed trade and the job is over 2500.00. So as a handyman I can do pretty much any other repair without a state license. They do require liability, work comp, rrp cert, and a business license among other things.
 
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Yeah here in California if you're doing work that's 500 dolars or more including materials, you have to be licensed. I'm just really curious how some people can get away with work that I know has to be licensed, and they some how slip through the cracks.
 
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Yeah here in California if you're doing work that's 500 dolars or more including materials, you have to be licensed. I'm just really curious how some people can get away with work that I know has to be licensed, and they some how slip through the cracks.
One other thing about PM companies. They usually cap the amount that can be done without extra approval, here it's 300.00
 
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This is a murky area. I, as a home owner cannot do any plumbing in my home without a master plumbing lisc. (union must have a little pull here) But I can do elect. work with a permit... Doesn't make much sense.
I can get away with plumbing repairs to do a successfull wint. I'm doing which requires real skills in plumbing and there is not a question or permit involved. The hipocrispy and double standard is screaming. It seems that this part of the job is left to anyone who thinks they know what they are doing and can do it cheap...
 
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Yeah it seems people are just hiring anypne that's cheap, and not realising that here in California they can be prosecuted. In my area I haven't found that Property Mangers have to hire Licensed people, I hope to find a law somewhere where I can propse a new one in my state. All the unlicensed people are taking work away from us Licensed Contractors.
 
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In Minnesota I know that a home owner can do their own electrical, plumbing, and structural. I also know that a direct blood relative can do the work as well. I know because my stepfather could not help us with a plumbing line but my biological dad could help(not that we would ask him).

It is just recommended that a licensed contractor do the work. By recommended I mean that the city inspector will inspect your work with a fine tooth comb. It is just extremely ridiculous to assume that you cannot do work on your home.
 
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In Minnesota I know that a home owner can do their own electrical, plumbing, and structural. I also know that a direct blood relative can do the work as well. I know because my stepfather could not help us with a plumbing line but my biological dad could help(not that we would ask him).

It is just recommended that a licensed contractor do the work. By recommended I mean that the city inspector will inspect your work with a fine tooth comb. It is just extremely ridiculous to assume that you cannot do work on your home.
Yeah that all makes sense, I just want a law put in so property managers are allowed to only hire Licensed Contractors. There's so many unlicensed people taking work away from my company, and the companies are puttting themselves on a fine line.
 
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In MI a home owner can do any repair, a handyman up to $600 in total repair, and anything over has to be by a licensed contractor. I still think these companies should at least hold a builders license or GC license.
 
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I totally agree with you, especially here in CALI.
The more I read about cali the more I dont even want to vacation there.
 
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The more I read about cali the more I dont even want to vacation there.

And on top of that they have there citizens thinking more regs is better after all i have a license so I must be better than you.....

Licensing laws are just another restraint of trade.
 

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And on top of that they have there citizens thinking more regs is better after all i have a license so I must be better than you.....

Licensing laws are just another restraint of trade.


It depends where you live. Some things are needed but most states are entirely out of hand. Just more tax collections. For me to build a new house in the county, (outside of city limits) The only permit fee is $350 for a conditional use fee to build a single family residence. there are no building permits required since there is not building department. I need an a septic permit/inspection ($230) but i can install the septic myself.

If i am doing work for hire, I need to be licensed for plumbing and electrical IN town but in the county i do not. No permits required for repairs in town but there are for upgrades. In the county, NOTHING.

I have a friend in PA that was told he had to get a building permit for a damn chicken house. Glad i don't live anywhere like that.........
 
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In the state of oregon you need to be licensed to work on real estate greater than $500.00. If you hire subs they are required to be properly licensed. I think there are a few companies that have in house maintenance departments that aren't licensed. But every pmc I've worked with required proof of licensure.
 
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In the state of oregon you need to be licensed to work on real estate greater than $500.00. If you hire subs they are required to be properly licensed. I think there are a few companies that have in house maintenance departments that aren't licensed. But every pmc I've worked with required proof of licensure.
Yeah same here in Alifornia. I think that just cause you have in house maintenance, PMC should only hire licensed professionals. Why would a PMC send a unlicensed person to a home that isn't properly licensed or even bonded. The unlicensed wires a outlet wrong, the house burns down, whos respondible, the PMC.
 
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This property preservation thing is a big problem. They're getting away without having to pull permits. No permits, no income for the city, county, whatever. Then on top of that you have companies that don't know plumbing, elec. or anything else for that matter and are doing it anyway. They are hired to inspect (company I know) they show up, turn the gas off, take picture of meter (just happen to have the same locks that gas company uses), throw snow in toilet, take picture. Ohhh! guess it froze! Now they get to do the thaw and fix pipes. Oh no, they came back and guess what? there's no copper in the house! Guess who took that? :rolleyes: So, then you put in new copper and by who's standards? they can't solder. They then do the wint and walk away. New home owner comes in turns on electric and next thing ya know the basement is flooded because the dumb*** didn't drain the water heater!

By not policing these banks, the home owners, they are doing band-aid fixes on major problems and just passing the buck down the road. By leaving these houses in such distressed condition and not properly fixing them and NOT selling them, they bring all our home values down! And these companies that they hire don't have to licensed here in MN and with the amount of money the banks are paying to fix, it's no wonder that there cheating to make ends meet. As a licensed contractor I couldn't do that! I'd loose my license so fast. :censored:ing pisses me off to no end...
 
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This property preservation thing is a big problem. They're getting away without having to pull permits. No permits, no income for the city, county, whatever. Then on top of that you have companies that don't know plumbing, elec. or anything else for that matter and are doing it anyway. They are hired to inspect (company I know) they show up, turn the gas off, take picture of meter (just happen to have the same locks that gas company uses), throw snow in toilet, take picture. Ohhh! guess it froze! Now they get to do the thaw and fix pipes. Oh no, they came back and guess what? there's no copper in the house! Guess who took that? :rolleyes: So, then you put in new copper and by who's standards? they can't solder. They then do the wint and walk away. New home owner comes in turns on electric and next thing ya know the basement is flooded because the dumb*** didn't drain the water heater!

By not policing these banks, the home owners, they are doing band-aid fixes on major problems and just passing the buck down the road. By leaving these houses in such distressed condition and not properly fixing them and NOT
selling them, they bring all our home values
down! And these companies that they hire
don't have to licensed here in MN and with
the amount of money the banks are paying
to fix, it's no wonder that there cheating to
make ends meet. As a licensed contractor I
couldn't do that! I'd loose my license so fas
t. :censored:ing pisses me off to no
end...
Yeah I totally agree with what you posted. I'd sure love to get a law written up so that all these phoney people aren't allowed to do this type of work. It's nuts a bank can send some unlicensed person in, even a rental management company should not be allowed to send unlicensed people in to homes. I'm going to find a way to get a law written up and passed cause there taking all the work from us contractors that acutally have brains and know what the hell were doing. Anyone ever wants to support me in working on this law thing, I'd really appriciate it a bunch.
 
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Yeah I totally agree with what you posted. I'd sure love to get a law written up so that all these phoney people aren't allowed to do this type of work. It's nuts a bank can send some unlicensed person in, even a rental management company should not be allowed to send unlicensed people in to homes. I'm going to find a way to get a law written up and passed cause there taking all the work from us contractors that acutally have brains and know what the hell were doing. Anyone ever wants to support me in working on this law thing, I'd really appriciate it a bunch.
I realize that we are in two different states with different laws. I think alot of people don't. I do not have any other license other than a business license. However I'm not required to have any other license. That does NOT make me a Hack or a phoney or anything else. I take great pride in bein an honest upstanding tradesman. I am RRP certified.(and I follow rrp rules) I have liability and comp. (above the min. required) I am a member of the BBB. I have no control over the fact that my state doesn't require me to have a license. All that said. I wouls like to see my state require a handyman license. But dam* don't rag on unlicensed when it's not required everywhere. Not directed at anyone in particular...just wanted to rant I suppose
 
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