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was contacted over weekend by safguard to cover a zone in ohio 154 properties sounded good till i figured travel time gas and expenses,how can they expect you to do these for 30 a yard???needless to say i told them no way i could profit anything at that
 
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What zone number? And could you just sub it all out. That's what we do. There are a ton of lawn companies!! I'm not telling you what to do or care what you do but we work for safeguard. They asked us to do the same about 2 years ago I lost money!! And it was a lot of computer work. But now that I did that for them its like they know we can get the work done and has made us now over 3 states and doing more work then I had ever ever thought. We sub a lot and yes subs suck but out of 5 you use you get one good one then just send him all the work. Look at a grass cut its 30 bucks or so. You take 5 dollars out of it and pay the sub every other week. I know it's not much but when you have the volume it's a lot! And all you did was have a person open up a email and put photos where they go. I think you said 154 properties that's just the start you'll get more if work gets done. I would call them and tell them you want them you made a mistake. And if you think it's to much ask for half the yards they just want it done they don't care how it gets done. good luck
 

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ram it was zone 25 i believe i work for other nationals i just couldnt take it on right now,u might check into it
 

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I wouldn't accept $30 grass cuts...ever. They (Safeguard) are being paid the full amounts from the clients. Don't prostitute yourself or the market.
 

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At the start of 2011 they asked me about doing grass cuts.
I said sure, $50 and I'm all over them.

Guess how many I got. 0.0
 
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BPWY said:
At the start of 2011 they asked me about doing grass cuts.
I said sure, $50 and I'm all over them.

Guess how many I got. 0.0
Yeah but you have to cuz everyday there's a new company starting up in property restoration. They'll do them for even less to get there foot in the door.
 

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I've got plenty of local work for folks that truly appreciate what I do for them and their property.
I'm not about to work for free for a national.
They've got plenty of $$$ don't be so stingy.
 

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if u do them for 30,next year you'll be doin g it for 20 then 15,this is how they keep lowering prices,vendors need to stick together or were all gonna be shafted..i didnt take offer because i know what they get and its a ripoff...im eating bologna off a job while their ordering prime rib off same job,something isnt right
 

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if u do them for 30,next year you'll be doin g it for 20 then 15,this is how they keep lowering prices,vendors need to stick together or were all gonna be shafted..i didnt take offer because i know what they get and its a ripoff...im eating bologna off a job while their ordering prime rib off same job,something isnt right
Amen. In defense of safeguard, they're offering to get the work done at a lower rate than other nationals. Thats why their low prices.
 
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Ok, here are 6 lawns i cut in Philly every 2 weeks. All are different properties and these only have front lawns (if you want to even call them lawns!) What would you guys charge for these??
 

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Ok, here are 6 lawns i cut in Philly every 2 weeks. All are different properties and these only have front lawns (if you want to even call them lawns!) What would you guys charge for these??
$55. After fuel, drive time, insurance, e&o, offset various chargebacks(real or imagined) office time and storing the photos, fronting the work for 30-45 days and filing away work order and photos for 5 years, $55 is fair. The national gets $75 each. since we do all the work, $20 is good for them.
 
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$80 recuts. Those my friend are the winners that help offset the losers
 
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$75 is what i get for every one. I have 40 lawn and don't own a lawnmower! LOL Everything is done with weed whackers.

I actually have 3 that dont have grass at all, we just weed whack the cracks in the sidewalk.
 
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Does anyone know how nationals find "vendors" to get their work done?

I wish I knew where they looked, but where ever it is, they are constantly scouring ever source of labor where people are

1) not aware of the fees Nationals are getting from the bank fee matrix

2) desperate to make some sort of income - you know something is better than nothing because the economy is so bad

If you want reasonable fees and to stop the downward trend by nationals and their threats of "accept the new rate or we will have to start recruiting in your area" YOU NEED TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE THEY ARE CONSTATNTLY TRYING TO RECUITE

We all know they are braking laws left and right and no one has the money to fight them. If you try they will burry you in legal paper work so you can not afford the legal fees.

The only way to fight back is to prevent them from constantly victimizing YOU and the people they are trying to find to replace you.
Find them first. Educate them.

FYI one of those large nationals recently launches software that reviews all your bids in an effort to make you take a lower fee. From what I have heard so far, once you get the bid approved and start the work, they contact you telling you the fee must be reduced based on their estimate of the job. We all know it is just a way to pad their pockets. The reduced amount is not being refunded back to the banks.
 

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Does anyone know how nationals find "vendors" to get their work done?

I wish I knew where they looked, but where ever it is, they are constantly scouring ever source of labor where people are

1) not aware of the fees Nationals are getting from the bank fee matrix

2) desperate to make some sort of income - you know something is better than nothing because the economy is so bad

If you want reasonable fees and to stop the downward trend by nationals and their threats of "accept the new rate or we will have to start recruiting in your area" YOU NEED TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE THEY ARE CONSTATNTLY TRYING TO RECUITE

We all know they are braking laws left and right and no one has the money to fight them. If you try they will burry you in legal paper work so you can not afford the legal fees.

The only way to fight back is to prevent them from constantly victimizing YOU and the people they are trying to find to replace you.
Find them first. Educate them.

FYI one of those large nationals recently launches software that reviews all your bids in an effort to make you take a lower fee. From what I have heard so far, once you get the bid approved and start the work, they contact you telling you the fee must be reduced based on their estimate of the job. We all know it is just a way to pad their pockets. The reduced amount is not being refunded back to the banks.
Just dont depend 100% on this work.
 
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