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So I had put in a bid to remove 15 yards of branches and broken limbs from a property and the bid was approved.
Went and did it and took a photo of the truck (20 yard) 3/4 full.
Now I received an email stating that I need to submit more photos because the photos don't justify 20 yards or reduce my invoice to 10 yards. This was my response, see what happens.

" The photos show that the truck is 3/4 full, a 20 yd truck 3/4 equals 15 yards. Also this bid was submitted and approved for the given amount. Sorry but we DO NOT reduce invoices after the job is complete".
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brm1109 said:
So I had put in a bid to remove 15 yards of branches and broken limbs from a property and the bid was approved.
Went and did it and took a photo of the truck (20 yard) 3/4 full.
Now I received an email stating that I need to submit more photos because the photos don't justify 20 yards or reduce my invoice to 10 yards. This was my response, see what happens.

" The photos show that the truck is 3/4 full, a 20 yd truck 3/4 equals 15 yards. Also this bid was submitted and approved for the given amount. Sorry but we DO NOT reduce invoices after the job is complete".
You my friend are a gentleman and a scholar.
Depends on what your bid stated. If you bid hauling away 20 yards and you only hauled 15, you should adjust accordingly. If it was a flat rate to clean up the yard, then screw'em.
The original bid stated 15 yards as did the approval. This is why I am mostly out of this crap.
I think what TNT is saying is that even if the bid is approved for say 20 CYD, and only 15 CYD is removed because it was over estimated, then technically they would have grounds to reduce the original bid.

If I call "1800GOTJUNK" to my house and their estimate says it's going to be 2 loads hauled, and they end up fitting it all in one load, would you pay for 2 loads since it said it on the bid?

In your case, sounds like this isn't the case, though, you really did remove 15.
G
Does the photo you submitted make it unequivocally clear that the truck was 3/4 full? If there's any room for doubt, I could see them wanting a couple more.
G
Most tell me they count debris at property ,not whats on the trailer
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SwiftRes said:
If I call "1800GOTJUNK" to my house and their estimate says it's going to be 2 loads hauled, and they end up fitting it all in one load, would you pay for 2 loads since it said it on the bid?
Maybe.....

Depends on what the contract says.

Does it say, up to 2 loads?, or I agree to pay for "actual" loads hauled?, or is it a flat contract amount for$***x and up to 2 loads?
Take the debris back to the property, dump it back where it was before and let the ball bounce back to them. They decided to decline what they approved, so can you.
GTX63 said:
Take the debris back to the property, dump it back where it was before and let the ball bounce back to them. They decided to decline what they approved, so can you.

I believe this is illegal to do in most states
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RichR said:
I believe this is illegal to do in most states
Not sure how.
That would be an interesting case.

"Your honor, I decided I didn't want to pay this contractor for removing my debris pile, so he brought it back and left it."
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Just wait til you get to the other end

Wanna see that 10 yards turn into 25 yards? Take it to the local transfer station.
G
They want more photos? Send them a photo of the approval, and a photo of the lien.

Good Luck
Dave
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DavidC said:
They want more photos? Send them a photo of the approval, and a photo of the lien.

Good Luck
Dave
VERY well said Dave....
TNTSERVICES said:
Illegal dumping.
Correct. Once you load it in your equipment it's considered yours. Dumping it out then becomes illegal dumping. My cousin owns a dumpster company and he had a homeowner that refused to pay. He dumped the 30 yards of household debris out. on their driveway. Unfortunately it backfired on him and he had to clean it up.
Letting common sense fall out of the window, because it doesn't apply when dealing with FAS, the issue here is with a Regional trying to stick it to the contractor, not a homeowner. I have no problem sending a crew back to return items to the property when a client operates in bad faith.
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SwiftRes said:
I think what TNT is saying is that even if the bid is approved for say 20 CYD, and only 15 CYD is removed because it was over estimated, then technically they would have grounds to reduce the original bid.

If I call "1800GOTJUNK" to my house and their estimate says it's going to be 2 loads hauled, and they end up fitting it all in one load, would you pay for 2 loads since it said it on the bid?

In your case, sounds like this isn't the case, though, you really did remove 15.
If he bid for two and it took three would he get to bill you extra? The sword has to cut both ways.
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