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Does not get rid of the harmful mold, it just hides it. If you are a maintenance vendor and follow these dumb nationals protocols, I hope you have good insurance.

When the new homeowners start getting sick and start finding that hidden mold, who's going to get in trouble?

I have one word for my fellow contractors, RUN!

If you see mold, bid to totally remove. Do not bid to bleach and paint. That's some serious negligence. If they don't approve the bid, don't continue to do it. Not worth the anxiety.
 

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did a w/o about a month ago basement flooded first time at property mold in basement starting upstairs I bid to remove the mold from al walls affected and the drop ceiling tile gave good measurments to each room and dollar amount got w/o back bank wanted me to treat and kiltzed knowing this would not cure the problem I expressed to my field advicer (what a joke) he said to go and do the work the bank just wanted to see an effort so did and after bleaching walls and painting them there was hardly any drywall left as soon as the roller touched the walls the drywall fell apart. I am by no means a expert just flunkie but common sense should tell you any big job that has lotsof mold that a regular contractor shouldn't touch I made good money doing it but it will be my last my lungs mean to much to me the risk not worth it reassign
 

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did a w/o about a month ago basement flooded first time at property mold in basement starting upstairs I bid to remove the mold from al walls affected and the drop ceiling tile gave good measurments to each room and dollar amount got w/o back bank wanted me to treat and kiltzed knowing this would not cure the problem I expressed to my field advicer (what a joke) he said to go and do the work the bank just wanted to see an effort so did and after bleaching walls and painting them there was hardly any drywall left as soon as the roller touched the walls the drywall fell apart. I am by no means a expert just flunkie but common sense should tell you any big job that has lotsof mold that a regular contractor shouldn't touch I made good money doing it but it will be my last my lungs mean to much to me the risk not worth it reassign

I think i would have told him to have a nice day. And then sent him some info from the EPA
 

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did a w/o about a month ago basement flooded first time at property mold in basement starting upstairs I bid to remove the mold from al walls affected and the drop ceiling tile gave good measurments to each room and dollar amount got w/o back bank wanted me to treat and kiltzed knowing this would not cure the problem I expressed to my field advicer (what a joke) he said to go and do the work the bank just wanted to see an effort so did and after bleaching walls and painting them there was hardly any drywall left as soon as the roller touched the walls the drywall fell apart. I am by no means a expert just flunkie but common sense should tell you any big job that has lotsof mold that a regular contractor shouldn't touch I made good money doing it but it will be my last my lungs mean to much to me the risk not worth it reassign
Not trying to be a dick...not something you want to place in a public forum....
Our company has ALWAYS refuced to perform the bleach and kilz crap....if we see mold we report MOLD not discoloration..period...

Here is what will happen...
#1 You're not licensed in mold remediation therefore you are not qualified to IDENTIFY mold...
#2 You are not insured to perform the service being reported as mold/discoloration remediation.
#3 Doesn't matter if you do not know and understand the law you put an X o a contract you are smart enough to read and the court will not accept I was doing what I was told.
#4 There is something in the legal world called "personal Capacity" you're about to find out just how that works in a lawsuit.....

People you have to start telling these companies no...period...
 

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you are absolutely right everyone needs to say no these companies make you think that u need them to survive we need to remember that these are our own business not theres and they need us worst than we need them. You can only chase a dollar for so long and once they con you in they think they got you gotta stick up for yourself and if they take work away then so be it
 

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Hi argue everyweek about this. We are certified to remove mold and tell them on all work orders that we will not bleach clean and paint over mold on drywall, just to much liability.
I love when I get well our company just wants it done that way. My standard reply is always ok have somebody do it.
Not to long ago I went round and round that there was a job where I wouldn't do the bleach and said find another contractor. Guess what, I went to the property for something else and sure enough, they bleach cleaned it and painted it. Good luck in court on that one.
Sorry but I have worked too hard to build my company just to do a crap job because that is what your client wants.
The best was there was one company that said to us, well if you will not do it their way then we will find somebody who will. Good go ahead and have a nice life.
 

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Think of it as if YOU and YOUR family are moving into that home. Would you allow your wife or kids live in that house knowing what lies beneath/behind those walls? HELL NO you wouldn't. I don't give a rats ass how much $$$ a company is willing to pay to bleach/kilz...simply put the only ethical and responsible thing to do is to to do it RIGHT.

So you clowns (and yes I mean exactly that...I could be harsher) that are doing this, SHAME ON YOU.
 

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My take:
Think of it as if YOU and YOUR family are moving into that home. Would you allow your wife or kids live in that house knowing what lies beneath/behind those walls? HELL NO you wouldn't. I don't give a rats ass how much $$$ a company is willing to pay to bleach/kilz...simply put the only ethical and responsible thing to do is to to do it RIGHT.

So you clowns (and yes I mean exactly that...I could be harsher) that are doing this, SHAME ON YOU.
Absolutely. It basically comes down to doing the right thing.
 

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Does not get rid of the harmful mold, it just hides it. If you are a maintenance vendor and follow these dumb nationals protocols, I hope you have good insurance.

When the new homeowners start getting sick and start finding that hidden mold, who's going to get in trouble?

I have one word for my fellow contractors, RUN!

If you see mold, bid to totally remove. Do not bid to bleach and paint. That's some serious negligence. If they don't approve the bid, don't continue to do it. Not worth the anxiety.
Cant speak for your insurance co but mine dioes NOT allow me to treat ANY mold !1 Not even hire serve pro or another service co that doese !! Check it out with your insurance co because YOU and ONLY YOU will be left holding the bag when you find out the HARD way. Secondly if you are going to do mold remediation be SURE to put in a HIDDEN DAMAGES CLAUSE and word it to state basically "If there is mold found inside the wall it will be delt with ona an additional bid basis and is not included in this bid, This covers removal disposal of old materials and insatallation of new materials . We will bid additional damages (hidden damages) on an additional bid basis. When approved the priimary and additional bid work shall be completed"
 

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I'm looking for a company that specializes in mold remediation to interview for part of my continuing education series for the NPPG....
if any is a mold remediation specialist and would like to get some shameless self promotion for your company please contact me at
[email protected]
Please place MOLD INTERVIEW in the subject line.

Sure would appreciate it...

Thanks...
 

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Mold Remediation

Check out Season 1 episode 6 of Holmes Inspections. Titled "holding it in" It was on tv again today about a couple that purchased a house loaded with mold. Interesting and enlightening. I'm sure there were some names mentioned
 

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I do not have a problem, nor do I

foresee any legal issues with under 100 sq, ft, or so surface cleaning of mold, as long as it is not a general condition of the building, and is done in conjunction with steps to remedy the cause, such as dehumidifiers. clean-up of standing water, roof drainage, etc. However once it is a general condition, or is clearly grown into porous materials, leave it to the pros, or remove affected materials completely. The key is to not imply or express any warranty of effectiveness, and don't use the M word. Anytime I can get $800 for a half a can of kilz, I'm most likely gonna do it. If you think that makes me a hack, oh well!
 

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foresee any legal issues with under 100 sq, ft, or so surface cleaning of mold, as long as it is not a general condition of the building, and is done in conjunction with steps to remedy the cause, such as dehumidifiers. clean-up of standing water, roof drainage, etc. However once it is a general condition, or is clearly grown into porous materials, leave it to the pros, or remove affected materials completely. The key is to not imply or express any warranty of effectiveness, and don't use the M word. Anytime I can get $800 for a half a can of kilz, I'm most likely gonna do it. If you think that makes me a hack, oh well!
Save that $800 your gonna need it.:cry:
 

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foresee any legal issues with under 100 sq, ft, or so surface cleaning of mold, as long as it is not a general condition of the building, and is done in conjunction with steps to remedy the cause, such as dehumidifiers. clean-up of standing water, roof drainage, etc. However once it is a general condition, or is clearly grown into porous materials, leave it to the pros, or remove affected materials completely. The key is to not imply or express any warranty of effectiveness, and don't use the M word. Anytime I can get $800 for a half a can of kilz, I'm most likely gonna do it. If you think that makes me a hack, oh well!

I guess you are a licensed mold remediation contractor. When money talks, people get sick in this shoddy trade.

I'm fine with shoddy repairs in this hackers paradise because of the low pay, but this mold fiasco is going to bring down these nationals hard. 1/2 the properties I walk past stink to high heaven from mold.

I should start screen printing all of the estimates I see that say "bleach and paint with kilz". It's alarming.
 

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I guess you are a licensed mold remediation contractor. When money talks, people get sick in this shoddy trade.

I'm fine with shoddy repairs in this hackers paradise because of the low pay, but this mold fiasco is going to bring down these nationals hard. 1/2 the properties I walk past stink to high heaven from mold.

I should start screen printing all of the estimates I see that say "bleach and paint with kilz". It's alarming.

If I see a little mold starting at the top of the basement steps, and a bit here and there I'm not going to run like a little girl, I can clean it with an EPA approved product and repair the damaged paint. I may also control water and moisture issues at the property,I do not have allow it to spread, or call it mold remediation.
 
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